From March 23 to 25, 2023 in Beijing, the Center for International Security and Strategy of Tsinghua University (CISS) held the fifth International Forum on Security and Strategy with the theme of "A World at Crossroad: Re-engagement or Factionalism". During which, China Forum of CISS had the honor to invite Ms. Susan Thornton, Senior Fellow at the Law School's Paul Tsai China Center at Yale University, to give a podcast interview and talk about her views on the above issues. Susan Thornton expressed her views on current situation of US-China relations, China's role in global affairs, the different views and positions of the US and China on the Ukrainian crisis and the security system in the Asia-Pacific region. She said exaggerating the concept of threat and calling each other an existential threat are useless to US-China relations. She looked forward China to playing a more constructive role in global affairs in the future.

Supervisor：Zhang Lirong

Podcast Producer：Wen Jing

Editor：Xu Xinyun, Guo Jia

Translator：Song Xuer, Jiang Shaocheng, Yu Yiqi

Podcast Editor：Qian Shanming