From March 23 to 25, 2023 in Beijing, the Center for International Security and Strategy of Tsinghua University (CISS) held the fifth International Forum on Security and Strategy with the theme of "A World at Crossroad: Re-engagement or Factionalism". During which, China Forum of CISS had the honor to invite Ms. Sun Yun, Director of the China Program at the Stimson Center, to do a podcast interview. Sun Yun shared her opinions on how the American people are feeling for China and where the subtle changes come from. Although the current US-China relationship is in trouble, the two countries can work together to manage differences, and think tanks can play an important role as a bridge.

Supervisor：Zhang Lirong

Podcast Producer：Wen Jing

Editor：Guo Jia, Jiang Shaocheng

Text Proofreading：Yu Yiqi, Song Xuer

Podcast Editor：Qian Shanming