From March 23 to 25, 2023 in Beijing, the Center for International Security and Strategy of Tsinghua University (CISS) held the fifth International Forum on Security and Strategy with the theme of "A World at Crossroad: Re-engagement or Factionalism". During which, China Forum of CISS had the honor to invite William Klein, former acting charge d'affaires of the U.S. Embassy in China, to do a podcast interview. William Klein shared his thoughts on the setbacks that China and the U.S. had experienced over the past few years, but also expressed optimism in the bilateral ties, saying that U.S. and China should engage more in every level to address thorny issues and expand common ground.

Supervisor：Zhang Lirong

Podcast Producer：Wen Jing

Editor：Xu Xinyun, Zhang Ruiyong

Podcast Editor：Qian Shanming